MentorVIEW With Bill Smith,
Pharm.D., PhD, Professor at Virginia Commonwealth University.
Currently
associate dean of administrative
affairs at the School of Pharmacy,
Virginia Commonwealth University,
Bill Smith has enjoyed a broad
career in health system pharmacy
and is widely regarded as a great
visionary in pharmacy. Smith
shares his thoughts on the future
of pharmacy and what young
pharmacists must do to bring
positive change to the profession.
PharmacyNOW:
Let’s start with one of your
passions, the future of clinical
pharmacy. What do we need to do as
a profession and why?
Bill
Smith: I think the profession is
still struggling to try to
identify what its core purpose or
mission is. We continue to be
dominated by the dispensing
function and the "corporatization"
of health care pharmacy. Therefore
the organizations we work for have
their own agendas and I think we
have a clash between the cultures
of the business versus a health
profession. I think it comes down
to deciding what we are all about.
If you ask pharmacists or
graduates from schools of pharmacy
to articulate what they believe
their basic purpose is, you do not
get a very good answer. That needs
to change. Frankly, I am
disappointed that we haven’t
gone farther in building clinical
practice, either in hospitals or
in other kinds of practice
settings. So that is what I am
going to focus on in whatever is
left of my professional life!
Speaking
of your professional life, can you
tell us a bit about your
experiences as a pharmacist?
I
went to the University of
California San Francisco and also
completed a residency at UCSF in
the medical center. I had an
opportunity to plan and put a
satellite pharmacy on the ninth
floor of Moffitt Hospital, which
was the beginning of decentralized
clinical practice. Then I left to
try the world of community
practice and hospitals. I went to
Long Beach Memorial in 1967 and
was appointed director in 1968. I
was able to recruit a great
pharmacy staff and administrative
team and we had a great ride from
1968 to the late 1980’s. Then,
in the late 1980s, hospital
administration changed, the census
started dropping after changes in
both state and Medicare in 1984,
and the consultants thought our
decentralized clinical program was
not fitting in. I left after five
years of hassling with
administration and went back to
graduate school in 1991 at the age
of 51 and survived a very rigorous
PhD program. I then made a career
switch, moved across country from
southern California to the cold
winters of New England, and made
an adjustment in academia. I have
been in Virginia for five years
and am having a lot of fun.
You
are obviously fired up about
pharmacy. What is the message you
are giving to your students?
I’ll
answer that question with an
example. I taught an elective
course to four third-year pharmacy
students which focused on defining
what practice should be, how to
implement the new practice, how to
manage it and then how to evaluate
it. Those are the questions we
need to answer.
Where
do you hope to take your students
before they leave your tutelage?
As
an associate dean, we have to look
for the bigger picture. We have
incredible talent sitting in the
classrooms of pharmacy schools
today. We have students at a time
trying to learn the greatest
number of drugs, drug products,
drug information, biomedical
information and pharmacy science
information that has ever existed
in the history of mankind and we
are throwing the coursework at
them. After we’ve done that, we
try to get them into the clerkship
year where they can begin to apply
what they’ve learned. We try to
give them some sense of newer
types of practice, cognitive
services and clinical practice,
and give them some kind of tools
on how to move forward and make it
happen. It is too easy for
students to chase the big bucks
now. Then, many of them become
very disenchanted. We try to set a
bigger professional goal and find
a way to get there. We want them
to be willing to fight the
battles, like us old people have
done, at trying to change
practice. There are still a lot of
those battles that have to be
fought.
Could
you give us an example of a battle
you fought?
In
the initial plan of the ninth
floor project (at Moffitt
Hospital), the chairman of the
department of surgery had
converted the floor to be an
innovative floor for any
department in the hospital and so
pharmacy got in the planning.
Urology was one of the wings on
the floor. During a planning
meeting, we were talking about
having pharmacists interview
patients at admission time and at
discharge. The head of urology
said, "Not on our patients,
we are tired of pharmacists giving
the wrong information to our
patients. " That was my first
confrontation with that kind of
reaction from a group of
physicians. I experienced similar
reactions to the satellite
pharmacy program in the early
years at Long Beach Memorial. I
had physicians who thought it was
crazy. I was told to go jump off
the Long Beach pier. I was known
as the maniac in Long Beach out to
destroy the profession. Finally
after three or four years, the
medical people and physicians on
several key committees came to
realize the value of the
pharmacist in clinical practice
and they defended us against the
surgeons and others in the medical
center. After about five years, we
had a lot of support from a
medical staff that really came to
our rescue in the late 80s when a
consulting team and a new
administrative team wanted to
dismantle the whole clinical
pharmacy program. From these
experiences, I learned how
important it is to be aware of
what we are doing, what terms we
are giving it and what the
reactions are to it.
You
have witnessed automation and
information systems coming into
their own. What do you see over
the next 10 years for pharmacy?
A
lot depends upon the profession
trying to figure out what it is
all about. We have got to develop
practice models. I think there
ought to be a standard of practice
that pharmacists are going to
provide to patients who come into
an acute care hospital or a
community pharmacy or a geriatrics
facility; we don’t have that.
Where we are going depends upon
our own self-determination of what
we want it to be. Also, we have to
come up with a way to educate more
pharmacists to be capable managers
in today and tomorrow’s world.
We have done a dismal job of
trying to develop management
expertise within the profession
and we are paying a price for
that. And then we have to figure
out how we are going to cope with
another 350 to 500 new drugs that
are going to be approved by the
FDA, that are going to be even
more complex, more potent, more
tricky to use than what we have
now.
Could
you fill us in on your personal
life and how you chose pharmacy?
I
am a native Southern Californian.
When I was a child, I just decided
I was going to get an education. I
had to go to work when I was in
high school and, just by luck,
started working in a one-man
independent pharmacy. After four
months there, I decided I was
going to go into pharmacy because
I was very turned on by job
security, which was very important
to me. I was the first person in
our family to go to college. I
have been determined not to be a
financial burden on my kids and to
financially assist my parents.
You
have had a very full professional
life. How have you balanced your
desire for security with the
passion to have a positive impact
on pharmacy?
Through
hard work and by giving up some
things. I had a great passion for
baseball, but I decided not to
pursue a couple of inquiries I had
to play college baseball. In
retrospect, I wish I had done it.
Instead, I have poured myself into
youth baseball through the years
with my son and now with my
grandkids, who happen to live on
our street. I did not spend a lot
of time in service clubs or
scouting or other things. I
focused on what I was doing and I’d
try to do it as best as I could.
You have to recognize that you
need to work for what you want; it
just doesn’t land in your lap.
What
would you say is the most
important characteristic to your
success or for anyone to be
successful?
I
think it would be serving other
people. I recently spoke to a
graduating class at Northeastern
University. I gave them four
suggestions for the future of
their lives as pharmacists. Number
one was to make sure that they
were clinical drug experts. The
second thing was to commit
themselves to serving the needs of
other people. The third thing was
to develop their information
technology skills because it would
increase their efficiency and
capability to practice. Number
four was to be adaptable.
I
know your mother has been an
influence on your life.
Specifically, what about her has
left you with such a positive view
of her?
It
was honesty, hard work and
quality; she is always trying to
do better. She has had a difficult
life, but she continues to battle.
She has multiple health problems
at the age of 86, but she still
continues on. She is a tough lady.
Who
has been the most influential
person in your life?
Professionally,
it is Dr. Donald Brodie, who I had
the privilege of meeting while I
was at the University of
California San Francisco;
personally, my mother. Dr. Brodie,
was an incredible individual,
someone who served other people
and was a tremendously devout
Christian. He always said it doesn’t
take talent to be average; it
takes talent to be unique. Anybody
who came in contact with him for
any length of time could not help
but be affected by his approach to
his professional life as well as
his personal life.
It
would be understandable for you to
say you have done your part for
the profession. What is it that
keeps you going as you are?
There
are millions of patients every day
in this country who are in drug
therapy difficulty because of the
failure of the pharmacy
profession. How on earth can a
profession that says we are drug
experts, commanding the incomes we
are making, stand by and allow the
number of people who are in lousy
drug therapy to continue? I can’t
buy that. My goal is to do
something to minimize those
numbers. Otherwise, who needs us?
That is what it is all about.
To
finish up, what advice do you have
for young pharmacists who are just
beginning their careers?
The
future of the pharmacy profession,
if you focus on the clinical piece
of it, is extremely bright. I
think it is exciting. I think it
is challenging. I think it is
personally and professionally
satisfying. To move from where we
are, to taking care of more and
more patients and all the
facilities, is just going to take
a heck of a lot of work. One has
to focus on it, dedicate to it and
stick with it.
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