| Lucinda
Maine, PhD, is currently the
CEO of the American Association of
Colleges of Pharmacy. PharmacyNOW
caught up with her to talk about
the importance of education and
career objectives.
PharmacyNow:
Why did you pursue a PhD, and
would you recommend this to others?
Lucinda
Maine: The funny thing is I
never intended to pursue a PhD. I
went to Minnesota to get a Master’s
Degree. I
had some questions about Pharmacy,
in the late 70’s, and why it
seemed Pharmacists couldn’t put
their training to good use in the
profession. The PhD, in a clinical
scientist track, ultimately
allowed me to satisfy those
questions. In my current position,
I care a lot about there being an
adequate number of trained people
to teach the future pharmacists.
The PhD is a critical element of
that so I still strongly recommend
that pharmacists, even with a
PharmD degree, think very hard
about where a PhD might take them.
Because that combination of the
Pharmacy training – at any level
– and the academic research
training is very powerful.
What
did it mean to you personally to
be named CEO of the American
Association of Colleges of
Pharmacy (AACP)? I believe you are
the first woman to serve in this
position ….
That’s
correct. I am the first woman to
serve in this capacity at AACP,
and the first person to be hired
for this position from outside the
current staff.. As I was flying
down to the finalist interview, I
started thinking about questions
they would ask. What makes me
qualified for this position? I
realized that everything I had
done for the past 25 years was
relevant for my work here at AACP.
And, a light bulb went off that I
was moving in the right direction.
Well, wouldn’t you know – that
was exactly the first question
they asked me! I think,
personally, you would never find
in my career planning that I want
to be a CEO – I don’t think
that way. I don’t think about it
as a position, but rather what is
it that I might be able to
accomplish here that relates to my
career objective. And my career
objective is really simple.
Regardless of what I’m doing, I
want to know that it contributes
to improving medication use in
society. I think this is an ideal
opportunity in terms of helping
schools equip the next generation
of pharmacists and create the next
generation of scientists.
How
has being a woman impacted you
professionally?
My
class at Auburn University in 1976
was one of the first to hit the
50-50 threshold … and then it
quickly moved to 60-40. This was a
wakeup call to the profession of
Pharmacy. Not everyone thought
that was a good thing, and there
was concern about it. I think –
and I’m very willing to say this
– the leaders in Pharmacy at the
time knew how important it was
going to be for women to be
successful, and leaders, in
Pharmacy. So I got some help from
some of those people, and it
spirited my career along. The
combination of my willingness and
interest and the profession,
however you want to define that,
knowing how essential it was for
this new dynamic of large numbers
of women entering practice to work
for the profession was a very
synergistic turn of events.
Who
were those mentors?
Mary
Munson Runge, the first woman
president of APhA, who appointed
me to my first post-graduate APhA
committee. Jack Schlegal. John
Gans, President at APhA, who
encouraged me. I had a couple of
people at Auburn who were
extremely supportive. My major
professor in graduate Al
Wertheimer is a network
par-excellence. Larry Weaver, who
helped me create my first post-PhD
position. I omit more than I
mention. So many people. And back
in the good old days, if you will,
there were two unofficial groups.
One was the Young Pharmacists
Caucus, a group that was just
determined not to fall off the
face of the earth and they reached
out to the younger pharmacists.
Then there was a "good old
girls" network that got
together for dinner for one night
during the APhA meeting to
celebrate each other’s
accomplishments. Both the formal
and informal networks have really
lifted me up.
How
would you define success?
Loving
what you do every day. I have
finally come to terms with my
career objective. And clearly
success is being in the position
to move toward, if not achieve,
your objective every day. Life is
just way too short to not love
what you do every day. So to feel
like you are making progress
toward your objective, in an
environment that you enjoy –
surrounded by supportive
colleagues – is the ultimate of
success.
What
would you say to the pharmacist or
colleague who does not enjoy what
they are doing?
Unless
they are geographically
constrained, which I acknowledge
that some people are, in today’s
marketplace I personally believe
there is no excuse. You should not
stay in an environment you can’t
stand. Because you are not doing
anyone – you, your employer,
your patients, your family, any
good.
You
have two children. Has balance
been an issue?
Balance
has always been an issue, pre and
post-kids. I’ve always been a
pretty linear person. I was single
when I went to school. I got
married when I was 30, and I was
pretty well established in my
career by that time. We were
married 10 years before we had
children -- and we did it through
adoption and added two children to
the family at one time. People go
"whoah" when they hear
that but I had never done it
before, so I thought why not just
jump right in? And, I couldn’t
do it without my husband -without
that partnership. Therein lies the
key to balance. We work hard to
share things evenly. He does about
52% of the parenting, and I do
about 52% of the other things. We
both mow the lawn, we both cook. I
have found an equal partnership
and I can’t imagine it working
without that. But I also say that
in adding multiple increments to
life: work, then marriage, then
family, then other organizations
… if those are right for you
then it sorts itself out.
How
important is leadership ability
for the future of Pharmacy?
The
profession suffers for an adequate
number of leaders. We can be proud
of the changes that have been made
– essentially reversing course
twice: going from primary care
providers to people who are mostly
concerned about drug distribution,
and back to primary care providers
again. But there are people who
are frustrated we haven’t moved
farther faster. Leadership is
essential to us doing that. Often
we think of leadership as taking
on a state or national role. But
to me the most important leader is
the person who creates an
innovative new role and markets it
effectively within their
community.
What
major changes do you see coming
for Pharmacy?
We
are just posting to our website www.aacp.org
the results of our Pharmacy
Manpower Project. And the report
essentially says the need for
pharmacists will far outstrip our
ability to supply them. And the
greatest needs will be in direct
patient care – either primary
care or institutional pharmacy. So
the major change I see is an
acceleration of what is underway
already. We’ll see fewer FTEs
addressing drug distribution
systems. We will secure
reimbursement for our patient care
services, and pharmacists will
have the opportunity to make that
a part of their job descriptions.
People are waking up and realizing
they need help in managing
medications.
What
role will the technician take?
They
will be a key player. Both in
helping pharmacists increase the
efficiency of drug distribution,
and in other administrative areas.
I see their role, and numbers,
needing to expand.
What
role do you see associations
playing for the pharmacist?
I
see three dimensions. We provide
communications and networking to
stay informed. We provide programs
and services for professional
development like CE, leadership
development, and skill
development. We provide outreach
to the public, and this needs to
be funded by pharmacist membership
in AACP and the other associations
-- to reach out and address the
public’s keen interest in
appropriate medication use and
safety.
Who
has been the most influential
person in your life?
There
have been a lot of people who have
been strikingly influential in my
life. On a personal level,
undoubtedly it’s my Mom. She was
a special education schoolteacher,
but she was singularly my biggest
fan. I lost her 20 years ago, but
she always said you can be and do
anything, and was just a
wonderfully honest, loving person.
And there are just so many people
who have enabled me in Pharmacy.
What
do you know now that you wish you
would have known when you started
your career?
I
was going to grow up to be a
teacher, but my step-father –
who built submarines – asked me
if I ever thought about Pharmacy,
because I was interested in
science. And I really never looked
back from that point. I learned
very early on that Pharmacy had
this wide array of different
options, with no single track. But
there’s nothing that I didn’t
learn naturally along that course.
What
advice would you give the
pharmacist entering the profession
today?
If
they still have the opportunity,
either as a student or
professional without a lot of
encumbrances, I encourage them to
experiment with their career
choices. I’m convinced there is
a really good fit for everybody to
use his or her Pharmacy knowledge
and expertise. Be extraordinarily
optimistic about our profession! I
believe that my optimism is my key
to my personal success: it makes
people want to work with you; it
helps you see the good side of
things rather the dark side –
and the possibilities that come
along the way. The opportunities
for pharmacists are unprecedented
because society understands now
that drugs have to be managed and
pharmacists are the professionals
that can help with that.
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